Interview Episode: Two by Twos Update with Abbi & Mike Prussack
Special Guests: Mike & Abbi Prussack
Mike and Abbi Prussack were born into the same general community of the 2x2s in the Pacific Northwest of the USA, though their paths wouldn’t cross until they were young adults. They left together after they were married, and it took a little time before they started to understand some of the wider issues in the group. With their friends Kyle and Kari, two other former members, they started an online support group that grew to become the largest group for ex-2x2s in existence, and the pair have personally helped to support hundreds of survivors both privately and through the support group.
EPISODE DETAILS
Hosted by Sarah Steel
Music by Joe Gould
February 8th, 2025
1 hr 28 mins 27 secs
Season 7
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ABOUT THIS EPISODE
The Two by Twos, also known as The Truth, are a worldwide, highly secretive fundamentalist Christian sect that many have identified as a high-demand group. Let’s Talk About Sects did a deep dive episode about this group in October 2020. In the years since we recorded, huge numbers of followers in the USA in particular have left as more and more allegations of child sexual abuse have been made against workers, and the FBI is currently investigating the organisation.
It was never Abbi and Mike Prussack's intention to become involved in advocacy work, but once the couple became aware of the extent of the abuse and how it was concealed, there didn’t seem to be an option other than putting the real truth out into the world and attempting to create some transparency where there was none before. Abbi and Mike have been releasing information that the Two by Twos have kept hidden for decades, and Abbi co-founded a not-for-profit called Voices for the Truth to help provide education and resources to victim-survivors of the organisation.
EPISODE LINKS
Voices for the Truth — victim-survivor-led NFP co-founded by Abbi
Seeking Victim Information in 2x2 Investigation — FBI page with links to form to submit tips
Voices for the Truth RAINN Hotline: 928-756-8654 (US only)
Ex-2x2 Support Group on Facebook — this group membership is limited to ex-members or those who are in the process of leaving
2x2 Church Updates — current events page
Our 2x2 Story — Mike & Abbi's TikTok
Kyle Hanks' YouTube — channel discussing many aspects of 2x2 life
Timeline of events and publicly named perpetrators since the release of the Dean Bruer letter
Bridges and Balm — Survivor care organisation with funding available internationally to help with therapeutic care
Preserving the Truth — by Cherie Kropp-Ehrig, Clarion Call Publishing, 2022 (also on Amazon)
Telling the Truth — Cherie Kropp-Ehrig's informational website